The Syrian Uprising: US Follow A Failed Path

by Mac Tue Nov 08, 2011 20:32

The UN reports today around 3500 murders in Syria

http://www.thejournal.ie/un-says-3500-dead-so-far-in-sy...2011/

That arab plan is worthless and won't work, they are quite incapable of implementing any plan.

by pat c Wed Nov 02, 2011 20:10

NATO won't be pleased. More at link.

Syria agrees to Arab plan http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1102/....html Wed, Nov 02, 2011

Syria has agreed to pull its military out of cities, release prisoners and hold talks with the opposition as part of an Arab plan to end violence triggered by an uprising against Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.

"We are happy to have reached this agreement and we will be even happier when it is implemented immediately," Qatari prime minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani said after Arab foreign ministers met over the plan in Cairo.

Dr Assad has deployed his army and security forces to crush protests inspired by uprisings elsewhere in the Arab world. He has said they are battling Islamist militants and armed gangs.

by A Freeman Mon Oct 31, 2011 19:37

Hopefully, there'll be no western intervention in Syria, it looks like the muslim brotherhood and other islamist groups are behind the uprising and would implement a Saudi-style Wahhabi regime if they come to power. For the sake of minorities like the 2m Christians and 2m+ Alawites the status quo is probably safer, even if oppressive at times.

by pat c Sat Oct 29, 2011 20:42

Robert Fisk gives a more balanced assessment of the situation in Syria.

Syria slips towards sectarian war

Stories of killings in Homs are reinforcing support for Assad in Damascus

Robert Fisk Thursday, 27 October 2011

So there was the reporter from Syrian television asking what I thought of the situation in Syria, and there was I saying that you can no longer infantilise Arabs, that the uprisings/revolts/revolutions/unrest in the Arab world were all different; but that dictatorship didn't work, that if there were – if – a serious new constitution, pluralist political parties and real and genuine free elections, Syria might just climb out of its tragedy but that the government was running out of time, fast.

We shall see if this gets on air on Saturday (readers will be kept informed) but outside in the street another pro-Assad demonstration was starting, 10,000 then 50,000 – it might have reached 200,000 by midday – and there was no Saddam-style trucking of the people to the Omayad Square, no mukhabarat intelligence presence and the only soldiers were standing with their families. How does one report a pro-government demo during the Arab Awakening? There were veiled women, old men, thousands of children with "Syria" written on their faces. Most held Syrian flags, some held the flags of Russia and China.

Were they coerced? I don't think so – not by the Assad government, at least. Some played football games in the parks round the square. Others signed their names – Muslim and Christian – on a banner decorated with the branches of a massive Syrian tree. But if they were coerced, it was by stories from further north.I spoke to 12 men and women. Five spoke of relatives in the army killed in Homs. And the news from Homs was very bad. I had dinner on Tuesday night with an old friend. His 62-year-old cousin, a retired engineer, had given water to some soldiers in Homs. Next morning, armed men knocked at his front door and shot him dead. He was a Christian.

Of course, the Assad government had been warning of a sectarian war. Of course, the Assad government has set itself up as the only sure protector of minorities. Of course, the Assad government had claimed that Islamists and "terrorists" were behind the street opposition to the regime. It's also clear that the brutality of the Syrian security forces in Deraa and Homs and other cities against unarmed protesters has been a scandal, which those in the government privately acknowledge.

But it's also transparent that the struggle in Syria now cuts through the centre of the country and that many armed men now oppose the army. Indeed, I have been told that Homs slips – for hours at a time – out of government control. Damascenes travelling to the northern city of Aleppo can take the bus. But now more than ever, they are flying to avoid the dangerous road between Hama and Aleppo. These are the reasons, I suspect, why so many thousands came to demonstrate in Damascus yesterday. They are frightened....

by Ahram Sun Oct 23, 2011 15:01

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad condemns the "killings and massacre" in Syria in an interview with CNN, in Iran's strongest criticism yet of its key ally's deadly seven-month-old crackdown on dissent

We condemn killings and massacre in Syria, whether it is security forces being killed or people and the opposition, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, according to excerpts of an interview with CNN reported in Farsi by the website of Iran's state broadcaster on Saturday."We have a clear formula for Syria and that is for all sides to sit together and reach an understanding... therefore these killings cannot solve any problems and in the long term it will lead to a deadlock," he added.

Ahmadinejad's comments, the strongest so far from an Iranian official against President Bashar al-Assad's regime, come as Damascus presses a crackdown on nationwide protests that has killed more than 3,000 people since March 15, most of them civilians, according to the United Nations.

"When people are being killed, it paves the way for more quarrels... There should be no foreign interference (in Syria)," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. "America's stance will not help. There should be no foreign intervention. All should help for understanding to prevail in Syria," Ahmadinejad said

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Sat Oct 15, 2011 15:40

I dont think anyone is claiming Assad as any better than his old man was. Just questioning NATO's record on crocodile tears for the arab street it is so fond of reducing to bloodspattered rubble.

Bone fides, i think the term is.

by Mac Sat Oct 15, 2011 15:31

So, DD you are a big supporter of Assad? How hypocritical can you get! In your monologues so far you decry death and destruction yet a glosssed over photo from Syria convinces you he is the man. Well done, murder is ok as long as its muslim killing muslim.

by me Sat Oct 15, 2011 13:31

more proof

Massive Pro-Assad rally proves that 'Mac' speaks with forked-tongue

by me Sat Oct 15, 2011 13:26

below are pics of a recent Pro-Assad rally in Syria - there are 10's if not 100's of thousands at that rally - so I think it's quite clear that Assad is not the pariah in Syria that you and the US and Zionists like to claim he is - I have never seen any pics of Anti-Assad rallies with anything more than a few thousand attending - so it looks like it is the Anti-Assad side that is unpopular, and not Assad

Massive Pro-Assad rally in Syria -

Massive Pro-Assad rally in Syria -

by Mac Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:26

That is your opinion, I'd say they'd be glad to see NATO deposing him and they could all live happily ever after with the Jewish neighbours.

by An DD Sat Oct 15, 2011 08:30

Nato helps nobody - except the pockets of its Rothschild owners. I hope the Syrian people do manage to put a more democratic form of government in place. But, I hope they have the wisdom to do so by themselves - without selling their souls to Nato Nazi genocidists - who will kill and destroy far more than Assad ever would.

by Mac Sat Oct 15, 2011 06:27

Looks like the Syrian people could do with a bit of backing from NATO too
7 slaughtered by Assad

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/seven-reported-killed-....html