SS State Secret Vs Marian Price

by reader Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:07

"Britain has started 28,000 barbaric and genocidal wars"

can you validate this "fact"?
maybe supply a link?

thanks!

by Brian Clarke - AllVoices Thu Apr 18, 2013 13:31

This is the Link: https://britishkilled100millions.wordpress.com/category...hill/

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28,000 wars

by fred Thu Apr 18, 2013 13:51

I went to the site and there is no list of these 28,000 wars.

It's just stated as a fact over and over, without any proper attempt to corroborate the statement. It's just not credible at all.

I'm not saying the brits didn't kill a whole lot of innocent brown people unnecessarily, but 28,000 wars is not an accurate statement.

You only make yourself and this site look ridiculous by posting things like this instead of trying to be less sensationalist and backing up what you say more carefully. Plus you make it easy for the pro brits brigade to discount everything else you may say because you make statements like this.

This behaviour does nobody any favours except the brits and their supporters.

by Brian Clarke - AllVoices Thu Apr 18, 2013 14:13

Fred,
this is from the link posted in the manner described. I am really busy and unfortunately do not have the time to research every detail. History as you well know Fred is written by the winners and I have seen enough revisionism already in out own little island that nothing surprises. Britain has invaded all but 10 countries, in all of the world, consequently the figures do not surprise me.

If the figures from the source are incorrect, can you please demonstrate that ?

Is mise le meas,

brion

Caption: Video Id: qqTtZQw_PQA Type: Youtube Video
British colonialism and the distortion of history

by fred Thu Apr 18, 2013 15:33

I don't have to prove anything.

You posted an assertion which was not corroborated by the link you gave.

If you make an assertion, the onus is on you to back it up.

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

All I have to do is point out the lack of corroboration, if I think the assertion is wrong. I did. I went to the site and looked for proof. There was none.

I am not saying that the brits weren't ruthless or didn't kill a lot of people. Just that this particular claim is not backed up in any reasonable way at all, and makes it easy for the brits and their supporters to write you off and anything else you may say (that may be more truthful) as well, not to mention this site for letting you post this kind of statement.

In this way, you are doing us all a disservice Brian. That includes Marion.

If you can't back up a statement like this properly, then please just don't post it here until you can. It does more harm than good. Not just to you either. You are free to post anything you wish on your own website, fact or fiction, but if you post to a communal website like this one, you harm it's credibility by posting this kind of thing. This is bad for everyone.

by Brian Clarke - AllVoices Thu Apr 18, 2013 20:41

Fred the British are responsible for the genocide of more than 100 million people in Asia alone, never mind the rest of the world!

"Genocidal Racist Charles Dickens, Indian Holocaust And UK-US Muslim Genocide

By Dr Gideon Polya

This week the English-speaking world is celebrating the 200th anniversary of the birth of arguably the greatest Victorian era English novelist Charles Dickens (born 7 February 1812, died 9 June 1870).

Charles Dickens' works include “Sketches by Boz”, “The Old Curiosity Shop”, “Oliver Twist”, “Nicholas Nickleby”, “Barnaby Rudge”, “A Christmas Carol”, “Martin Chuzzlewit”, “A Tale of Two Cities”, “David Copperfield”, “Great Expectations”, “Bleak House”, “Little Dorrit”, “Hard Times”, “Our Mutual Friend” and “The Pickwick Papers”.

However ignored in the celebrations will be the reality that Charles Dickens, like many of his English and British contemporaries, was a genocidal racist. Thus Charles Dickens in a letter to Emile de la Rue on 23 October 1857 about the so-called Indian Mutiny of 1857 :

I wish I were Commander in Chief over there [India]! I would address that Oriental character which must be powerfully spoken to, in something like the following placard, which should be vigorously translated into all native dialects,

"I, The Inimitable, holding this office of mine, and firmly believing that I hold it by the permission of Heaven and not by the appointment of Satan, have the honour to inform you Hindoo gentry that it is my intention, with all possible avoidance of unnecessary cruelty and with all merciful swiftness of execution, to exterminate the Race from the face of the earth, which disfigured the earth with the late abominable atrocities" [2,000 British killed in the 1857 Indian War of Independence aka the 1857 Indian Mutiny]

(see Grace Moore (2004), “Dickens and the Empire. Discourses of class, race, and colonialism in the works of Charles Dickens” (Ashgate Publishing, Aldershot , UK ): http://www.amazon.com/Dickens-Empire-Discourses-Colonia...34124 ).

Charles Dickens was not alone and the British Establishment acted with extraordinary brutality. Indian historian Amaresh Misra claims in his 2 volume work “War of Civilizations: India AD 1857” that the British killed 10 million Indians in reprisals for the 2,000 British killed in the 1857 rebellion (the so-called Indian Mutiny). Amaresh Misra : “It was a holocaust, one where millions disappeared. It was a necessary holocaust in the British view because they thought the only way to win was to destroy entire populations in towns and villages. It was simple and brutal. Indians who stood in their way were killed. But its scale has been kept a secret" (Randeep Ramesh, “ India 's secret history: “a holocaust, one where millions disappeared…” Author says British reprisals involved the killing of 10 million Indians spread over 10 years”, Guardian, 24 August 2007:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/24/india.rande...amesh ) . However British writers in a process of continuing , holocaust denial put the number of Indians killed at about 100,000.

The British-imposed Indian Holocaust was not confined to the decade after the 1857 Indian rebellion. It is estimated that avoidable deaths from deprivation under 2 centuries of British rule have totaled 1.8 billion with this carnage terminating in the 1942-1945 Bengali Holocaust in which the British with Australian complicity deliberately starved 6-7 million Indian to death (see my book “Jane Australian and the Black Hole of British History”: http://janeaustenand.blogspot.com.au/ ) and Partition in 1947 in which 1 million Indians died and 18 million fled mass murder as refugees (see my book “Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950”: http://globalbodycount.blogspot.com.au/ ).

Yet the 1757-1947 Indian Holocaust and the 1942-1945 Bengali Holocaust have been whitewashed from British history – thus, for example, there is absolutely no mention of these enormous atrocities in recent Anglo histories such as “The Story of India” by Michael Wood (BBC, 2007), “The Britannica Guide to India” (Robinson, 2009), “A History of the English-speaking Peoples Since 1900” by Andrew Roberts (Harper, 2006), “A History of Britain” by Simon Schama ( BBC, 2002), “A Short History of the World” by Geoffrey Blainey (Viking, 2000), “A Very Short History of the World” by Geoffrey Blainey (Viking 2004) and “A Short History of the 20th Century” by Geoffrey Blainey ( Penguin, 2005)."

How many Indians died in the genocides committed by the British Raj?
Filed under: British Misrule — Yogeshwar Shastri @ 8:48 pm
Tags: British raj, Famines, Freedom Struggle, India History
In Memoriam: In memory of the countless millions of Indians who perished in the genocides conducted by their British tormentors. You shall not be forgotten.

Approximate Number of Indians Killed by the British

Cause of Deaths
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British-made Famines

85 million (approximately)

Please see Appendix I for a detailed breakup with references. For an explanatory article on the famines click here.
Epidemics induced by Famines
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Anglo-Indian Wars[i]
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Freedom Fighters martyred by the British

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As China approached the end of the nineteenth century, it was ravaged by rebellions, warlords, and famines, while the Imperial government had done little to ease the suffering of the common folk. This ancient kingdom had collided with Western intruders and was plunged into wars with foreign powers as well as domestic political violence. In the coming century, hundreds of millions would be slaughtered, starved, tortured, raped, forced into slave labor, or persecuted on political and religious grounds. Crimes against humanity, including genocide and war crimes, accounted for many of the deaths and atrocities. Other than a few Japanese war criminals, culpritsncluding state and nonstate forces, warlords, rebels, and foreign invadersave not been scrutinized for their responsibility in such crimes.

https://britishkilled100millions.wordpress.com/

"Britain has invaded all but 22 countries  NOV 16 2012
Of the current 200 nations in the world, the British have invaded all but 22 of them. The lucky 22 include Sweden, Luxembourg, Mongolia, Bolivia, and Belarus. The full analysis is available in Laycock's book, All the Countries We've Ever Invaded."

"NEW BRITISH EMPIRE - Evil, Bloody and Genocidal Imperialism
The essential feature of British imperial method: to blame its crimes on others, and rally its colonial victims, such as the Arabs, against the United States. The core of British imperial method has always been to rule through orchestrating conflict and war, made possible by systematically organizing, funding, protecting, and deploying the most irrational and violent, opposing, sides, of each and every important conflict, anywhere in the world.
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But there are simpler reasons, bravely revealed in Caroline Elkins's account of the slaughter of some 300,000 ethnic Kikuyu of Kenya, the torture of hundreds of thousands more, and the internment of the entire Kikuyu population, in mid-20th-century Kenya. As Elkins reveals, the Brits simply destroyed every record of the massacres they could find, and -- unlike the French, Germans or other conscience-harried colonials -- kept the settlers' oath of Omerta, never revealing what they did to the "Kukes" to anyone except other vets whose anecdotes were as bloody and full of blame as theirs. The difference between the British Empire and other fascist empires is not that these guys were nicer. Nobody who reads this book could continue to believe that, if they were fool enough to believe it beforehand. The difference is that the Brits were good at it, and had no conscience to trouble them. Thanks to that careful incineration of records and highly adaptive national sociopathic disorder, "...there would be no soul-searching or public accounting [in Britain] for the crimes perpetrated against the hundreds of thousands of men and women in Kenya."

http://bit.ly/115NOfV

British Genocides - No Apologies from the Fascist Empire and No Prosecutions of the Imperial Operatives

NORTH AMERICA: Using Smallpox to Eradicate the Natives
Speaking of the period 1754-67, Dr. Henderson, former Director of the WHO smallpox eradication program writes, "British soldiers distributed blankets that had been used by smallpox patients with the intent of initiating outbreaks among American Indians. Epidemics occurred, killing more than 50% of many affected tribes."

NORTH AMERICA: Biological Warfare against Soldiers and Civilians
During the American Revolution, the British army used infected civilians and soldiers - particularly black soldiers serving the loyalist cause in exchange for promises of freedom - to spread smallpox among the vulnerable American citizenry.

AUSTRALIA: Barbarism in Tasmania
The first British colonists arrived there in 1803 - 24 prisoners, 8 soldiers and a dozen volunteers. The following year the killings began. The first massacre was by escaped prisoners - they randomly killed the natives and raped their women. The more sadistic killers chopped off the head and asked his wife to carry it round her neck...In 1829, prisoners were sent out to hunt down the natives and a £5 reward was offered for every native caught...In 1830, a chain of 5000 soldiers set out to corner all the natives into a small space. For several weeks the chain moved across the whole island. In the end just 300 natives remained.

KENYA: The Mau Mau Uprising
"Dramatic evidence has unearthed such systematic British brutality in the former colony of Kenya that it may require the rewriting of imperial history. Hitherto secret files show that the then colonial secretary, Alan Lennox Boyd, sanctioned a policy of violence towards interned guerrilla suspects...The scale of suffering & death was far higher than previously thought and the Kikuyu death toll could have been as high as 50,000 [for some 35 European deaths]". John Nottingham, a district colonial officer at the time who stayed on in Kenya said: "What went on in the Kenya camps & the villages was brutal, savage torture...I feel ashamed to have come from a Britain that did what it did."

BENGAL, INDIA: Bengal Famine
The British colonial masters used hunger and starvation as tools which lasted for about eighteen decades which claimed about 30 million victims. Bengal had 30 or 40 famines during 182 years of British rule in Bengal. The last big famine in Bengal occurred between 1942 and 1945. At least four million people died during these three years and the famine deaths were caused by British policies.

INDIA: British Indian Holocaust
1.8 billion excess deaths, 1757-1947; 10 million killed in post-1857 Indian Mutiny reprisals; 1 million starved, 1895-1897 Indian Famine; 6-9 million starved, 1899-1900 Indian Famine.

IRELAND: Irish Potato Famine
The British caused the genocide of 2 million out of 8 million Irish subjects in four years. When it was "over," the British officials directly in charge of "Irish famine relief," particularly acting Treasury Minister Sir Charles Trevelyan, congratulated themselves and were decorated as Queen Victoria made her gala 1848 visit to Ireland.

SOUTH AFRICA: Boer (Afrikaaner) Genocide
28,000 Afrikaaner women and children died in British concentration camps, 1899-1902.

IRAQ: British Suppression of the Arab Revolt in Iraq
British invaded in 1914. Bombing of Kurds using poison gas in the 1920s.

INDONESIA: A Million Deaths
Bloodbath in Indonesia begins as army moves against supporters of Indonesian Communist Party, reaching around a million deaths. Declassified documents show Britain aids the Indonesian army in conducting the slaughter through covert operations and secret messages of support.

OMAN: Military Intervention by the British
SAS fights covert war and RAF conducts wide-spread bombing of villages and strongholds.

NORTH YEMEN: Dirty British War
In 1962, MI6 and SAS begin covert operation in North Yemen that eventually involves providing arms, funding and logistical support to royalist rebels in dirty war against pro-Egyptian republican forces. Around 200,000 die in the war.

AFRICA: Gukurahundi Massacres
Britain was behind the 1980s massacres that left nearly 30,000 innocent civilians from Matabeleland and the Midlands dead.

The British use the UK media for mass psychological warfare. The UK media is carefully manipulated and directed in order to create and mold popular opinion. The center of this mass psychological warfare apparatus is based outside London in the Tavistock Institute."

Then of course there is the small matter of more than 7 million + Irish disappeared!

Countries Invaded by the British

by fred Fri Apr 19, 2013 06:54

Yes I know they killed a lot of people over the years. I never disputed that.

I disputed the figure of 28,000 wars.

However it's no harm to remind people a little of the carnage caused by imperialists in the past, while we get to the bottom of this.

These days people have forgotten (or never knew) what kind of horrors the brits were responsible for in their imperialist days.

Those who don't know history are destined to (allow imperialists to) repeat it.

by W. Finnerty Fri Apr 19, 2013 08:10

"The first known massacre of Aboriginal people by the British occurred in 1804 at Risdon Cove, in 1816, along the Cataract River, a tributary of the Nepean River, south of Sydney. Governor Macquarie sent parties against the Gundungurra and Dharawal people, allegedly in reprisal over their encroachments against white farms in the "Nepean" and "Cowpastures" Districts. The British raiding parting split in two at Bent's Basin, with one group moving south-west against the Gundungurra, and the other moving south-east against the Dharawal. This latter group came upon Cataract Gorge,where the soldiers used their horses to force men, women and children to fall from the cliffs of the Gorge, to their deaths below. The occurrence of the Cataract Gorge (or Appin) Massacre is confirmed by Heritage NSW and the University of Western Sydney."

The above excerpt is from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indig...lians

Related Link:
British genocide atrocities worldwide ...
http://tinyurl.com/calbfuc

by W. Finnerty Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:38

" ... to God's Everlasting Great Honour and Glory, and our Comfort."

The above quote is attributed to Sir Frederick Hamilton (1590–1647), who was the youngest son of Claud Hamilton, 1st Lord Paisley. He was given lands in Leitrim, in the northwest of Ireland in 1622. Over the following two decades he increased his estate to 18,000 acres (73 km²) and built Manorhamilton Castle around which grew the town of Manorhamilton.

Further information relating to Sir Frederick Hamilton:
Sir Frederick Hamilton (1590–1647), Wikipedia, Father James Finnerty ...
http://tinyurl.com/cbzukkw

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One of the English army officers (Sir Fredrick Hamilton), who was in Ireland during the 1600's, apparently kept written notes of his military operations here. To give an indication of what it might be like to encounter such a person, a few small parts of his own writings are reproduced below:

".... hurt drivers, killed three, brought home their heads to our Collonel, with a lusty prisoner who was hanged next day."

"Killed about 30 in 3 cabbins, and hanged our guide, who died a most obdurate villain."

"Marched towards the Rosse, where we killed 60 of their ablest men with 2 of their famous priests."

"Sent a party of horse and foot upon them, where we had good sport in killing near 60 of them - with all three Captains, and Captain Teige O' Connor's wife."

"Burned and killed in the houses upwards of three score persons."

"Took prisoner Charles Maguire after breaking his leg; to cure him had him carried on a barrow to the gallows, where he rayled at us for not getting a souldier's death after having served in France and Spain."

"..... in burning the Toune of Sligo where it confest by themselves was destroyed that night neere 300 soules by fire, sword, and drowning: to God's Everlasting Great Honour and Glory, and our Comfort."

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The text in the section above has come from the following Human Rights Ireland (web site) page address:
http://www.humanrightsireland.com/FatherJamesFinnerty/C...ilton

Related Link:
British atrocities on the Island of Ireland ...
http://tinyurl.com/dxdgxdo

by Brian Clarke - AllVoices Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:50

A report by Jim McIlmurray

"On Tuesday, April 16th, 2013, Lurgan man Martin Corey will have spent three years in Maghaberry Prison without any charges ever being placed against him. During that time, police have never questioned or interviewed Martin regarding any incident, occurrence or event relating to his imprisonment.
So who is Martin Corey?

Martin Corey is a 62 year old man who served 19 years of his life in Long Kesh as a republican prisoner. He was released by the prison authorities in 1992 and began to rebuild his life. He is a popular figure from a well respected, hard-working family in the town.

It was a proud day for Martin when he was granted a loan to purchase his own mechanical digger. After a time, he gained the contract as the parish grave digger, covering several cemeteries in the greater Lurgan area. Many people, myself included, will recall his compassionate approach and professionalism during the time of families’ bereavement.
In all the time I have known Martin, I have only known his interests to be his family, his friends and his love of coarse fishing.

On Friday, April 16th, 2010, the police arrived at his O’Neill’s Terrace home and told him they had a warrant for his arrest. Martin was brought to Lurgan PSNI station and later that day transferred to Maghaberry Prison. It was stated he broke the terms of his Life Licence release. When his solicitor requested to know what Martin was alleged to have done, he was told it a matter of National Security and the subject of closed file information.

For the past three years, his solicitor and barristers have challenged his unlawful detention on numerous occasions in the High Court. On Monday, the 9th of July, 2012, a High Court judge, Justice Seamus Tracy, who has a background in the European Human Rights Courts, ordered Martin’s immediate release, stating that his Human Rights had been breached under sections 4 and 5 of the European Human Rights act and that there were no charges for which he should answer. I waited for 4 hours outside Maghaberry with Martin’s family that day, only to be told at 4:15pm that the then current Secretary of State, Owen Patterson, had overruled the High Court judge and blocked Martin’s release. I was 25 yards away from Martin when I received that call. I watched him step out of the prison van at the reception centre and watched him walk back to the van to be returned to his cell. As he got into the van, he paused and stared at me and that will always be one of the hardest and cruelest moments I have ever witnessed in my life.
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Martin has a legal entitlement to an annual Parole Board review every twelve calendar months to reevaluate the reasons for his continued detention. I have been accepted to speak on Martin’s behalf; however, every date set for a hearing for Martin last year was followed by a cancellation by the Parole Board, citing numerous excuses.
Martin hasn’t received a parole review in 18 months, an action deemed illegal by the Court of Human Rights in Strasburg. We are currently awaiting a date to take this case to the High Court for a judicial review.

Martin has been subjected to a number of incidents during his time in Maghaberry Prison. These incidents include waiting over three weeks for an emergency dental appointment; of note, a veterinarian would have a legal obligation to report a pet owner for cruelty if he found an animal to be suffering for that period. Also, Martin’s request for compassionate leave to attend the funeral of his brother was denied by both the Prison Service and the Courts without any reasons given. He was only granted leave to attend 1 hour before the service started after a request was made to the Justice Minister on humanitarian grounds. I had to make three requests to the Prison Ombudsman to intervene in cases concerning material submitted by myself for Martin for use in his cell crafts. The prison staff either confiscated the printed image materials or refused to provide them to Martin. The Prison Ombudsman upheld all three decisions in Martin’s favour, ruling against the Northern Ireland Prison Service and determining that the material must be provided to Martin.

Martin’s case has been in the High Court in Belfast several times over the past three years, without any finding of criminal offence with which to charge him. Had Martin been charged with possession of an illegal firearm during his arrest three years previously, he would have been released six months ago. There is no other name for his illegal detention other than internment without trial.

As a close friend of Martin’s, I am in a better position than most to know if he was ever involved in any activity that could be deemed illegal or “a threat to National Security”, a phrase often utilized by faceless, nameless individuals in the courts. I can say without fear of contradiction that Martin is an innocent man. Everyone should make their voice be heard and call upon the Secretary of State to either bring charges against him or release him immediately.

I speak to Martin by telephone on a daily basis and visit him regularly in Maghaberry Prison, and can assure everyone that his spirits remain high despite his total lack of confidence in the judicial system in the North of Ireland. He thanks everyone for their continued messages of support .

We are currently awaiting a date to attend the Court of Appeal in London to challenge his illegal detention. If unsuccessful there, we will take his case to the European Courts of Justice. We will continue our presence at the Belfast High Court to request the Parole Board to give an explanation as to why Martin has been denied his legal right to an annual Parole Review."

by Red Jed Fri Apr 26, 2013 23:16

I'm not sure if Marian would appreiate being classed as "Elderly".
She has quite a few years to go yet before she can succumb to that label.

by leanne flynn - OSSTF, Political Action & Creative Communications Sat Apr 27, 2013 05:06 flynnmacleod at gmail dot com Ontario, Canada 5193721823

It appears that Marian Price McGlinchey has for sure been 'used' and 'depersonalized' by people in positions of authority, to the point of torture. I believe the United Nations appointed physician acknowledged that she should be released on those grounds about a year ago. Her captivity at this point really looks like an effort on the part of the people, and these are a few individual people, that delayed process, destroyed documents, showed up to court without documents- these few poppy eyed legal folk on the take have perverted justice to the point of torturing a folk hero of Ireland, and Marian Price McGlinchey has become that! I believe they are functioning in a nasty terrorist controlled way, as though they 'cannot' release her, but they cannot explain why. That is why I still support the presence of United Nations peacekeeping teams to assist with her release and with securing the three locations that she was held. I do not believe the people involved in her legal proceedings are capable of holding the trial in May, and they will find any reason at all to delay yet again. The Northern Ireland military and UN should work together to intervene directly there. I'll try writing to them again. I hope others do the same.

by Nollaig Sat Apr 27, 2013 05:09

Why do you continue posting about Marian Price , even after she has made it quite clear personally that she does 'NOT' want you posting anything about her due to previous posts which you made about her which were upsetting to her and her family?? Have you no repect at all for the wishes of this woman??

by W. Finnerty Sat Apr 27, 2013 09:19

Reference: Brian Clarke (All Voices) comment at Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:50 ...

Point 1: "Martin Corey will have spent three years in Maghaberry Prison without any charges ever being placed against him."

Point 2: Part of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) text reads as follows:

Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10.
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

The text of the above three Articles has been copied from the following United Nations www location:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

... as has the following piece of text:

"Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction."

Point 3: Number of full years between April 2013 and December 1948 = 64.

Questions: Are Irish lawyers VERY slow learners, or are they supporters of government crime?

Or, are they some EXTREMELY unhealthy mixture of both maybe?

With due regard for the meaning of the word "UNIVERSAL" it seems to me that "the people" of Ireland -- of the whole Island of Ireland that is -- need to know, and to be clear in their own minds (as individuals) about where we all stand exactly regarding the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and, far more importantly perhaps, about all of national and international legislation which has been produced since 1948, that is directly based on United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights principles. Do any of the core-issue social principles and protections in question mean ANYTHING at all to the legal professions of Ireland?

And if not, why not?

Related Link:
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http://tinyurl.com/cx8jurf

by W. Finnerty Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:57

"Whosoever shall aid, abet, counsel, or procure the commission of any indictable offence, whether the same be an offence at common law or by virtue of any Act passed or to be passed, shall be liable to be tried, indicted, and punished as a principal offender."  (From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessories_and_Abettors_A..._1861)

The above excerpt is from an e-mail dated July 31st 2012 to the The European Council on Foreign Relations. A copy of the full e-mail in question, which was copied to (among several others) Republic of Ireland Justice Minister Alan Shatter TD, and Republic of Ireland High Court President Justice Nicholas Kearns, can be viewed at:
http://www.humanrightsireland.com/ECFR/31July2012/Email.htm

Related Links:
1) Aiding and abetting government crime with impunity, Republic of Ireland Chief Justice Susan Denham ...
http://tinyurl.com/c6w4z34

2) Aiding and abetting government crime with impunity, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Attorney General Dominic Grieve QC ...
http://tinyurl.com/co4srtj

Related Registered Letters:
1) To Republic of Ireland Chief Justice Susan Denham:
http://www.humanrightsireland.com/ChiefJusticeSusanDenh...l.htm

2) To Former Republic of Ireland Chief Justice John L. Murray:
http://www.europeancourtofhumanrightswilliamfinnerty.co...r.htm

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EPILOGUE

"So, here we see the ultimate practical truth of the matter: Private financial special-interest groups buy politicians; in public office these politicians empower the special-interest groups by statute to manipulate the monetary and banking systems; to the extent that these manipulations succeed, the profits are largely privatized; and to the extent that the manipulations fail, the losses are almost entirely socialized. In either case, the general public is held hostage to the racket, and foots the gargantuan bill for its operation. And the guilty parties escape scot free to steal again, and again, and again."

From: http://www.rapidtrends.com/switzerlands-daily-bell-inte...oney/

The excerpt just above is by "Edwin Vieira, Jr., who holds four degrees from Harvard: A.B. (Harvard College), A.M. and Ph.D. (Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and J.D. (Harvard Law School)."

"For more than thirty years he has practiced law, with emphasis on constitutional issues."

The above information relating to Dr Edwin Vieira, Jr has come from:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Edwin-Vieira-Jr/256773...=info

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Some additional "food for thought", based on the OVERALL www information referred to in this particular comment:

"Private financial special-interest groups buy politicians": and SENIOR LAWYERS as well perhaps?

by fred Sat Apr 27, 2013 16:00

"Why do you continue posting about Marian Price , even after she has made it quite clear personally that she does 'NOT' want you posting anything about her due to previous posts which you made about her which were upsetting to her and her family?? Have you no repect at all for the wishes of this woman??"

In light of this Brian, perhaps you should really stop posting about Marian?? Respect her wishes. Her life is hard enough.

Perhaps also you should take a good hard look at the style and nature of your posts here and ask yourself whether there is a reason why they elicit this response from so many people. Others manage to post on the same topics without alienating everyone.

Posts like yours drive away people who would otherwise be sympathetic to your causes. Mainly because they do not wish to be associated with fringe elements who make posts like yours. Your posts also drive people away from this site for the same reasons.

Candidly, if I was a provocateur who wanted to deliberately destroy causes or open them up to ridicule, an effective method would be to pretend to support a movement then post a load of wacky stuff mixed in with stuff about the cause itself. People reading this would be turned off, and other provocateurs could link to the posts as evidence that these are the kind of lunatics that also support this cause. As an added bonus, the credibility of the site you are posting on would also be destroyed, hence harming many other causes by association too. Bonus.

So if you really care about the issues you post about, please think about what I'm saying.

Personally I think you are probably genuine but misguided, but it hardly matters if you keep posting stuff like you do. You might as well be a provocateur working for the other side because of the harm your posts do to the causes and this (and other?) sites.

If the person you claim to be supporting tells you to stop supporting her, it's time to take a good hard look at yourself and what you are doing.

I say this in the spirit of "tough love" Brian. I'd be happy to offer some concrete practical suggestions if you were open to them.

by wake up Sat Apr 27, 2013 22:38

Marian has also asked the 32csm/irpwa/friends and family group/1916 socities to also cease using her name and image as a fundraising tool, as she resigned from that group of many names some time ago. no sign of that happening as you can still see irpwa posters available with her name and image. she and a large number of other long standing 32csm members resigned in protest of the takeover of the 32csn by provos who can be seen more clearly at the fandf/socities end of the equation by anyone paying the slightest bit of attention.

by We hate Churchill Nazi - Campaign against Shakespeare Cockroach Britain Thu Dec 05, 2013 16:37

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CHURCHILL NAZI (WINSTON CHURCHILL) KILLED 22 MILLION IN THE GENOCIDAL BRITISH COLONIES
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I found this site yesterday.

It relates to Churchill Terror all over the world.

It is worth a read.

Churchill undoubtedly was the biggest terrorist of the world. I totally agree with it.