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category international | environment | other press author Wednesday January 04, 2006 03:43author by dingo Report this post to the editors

(Actuality vs Delusion)

The forces that divide humanity issue from religion, tribalism, racism and self-interest. The fact that right wing groups emphasise the ‘virtues’ of these principles clearly identifies their support base and driving principles. It would seem obvious that an assault on the principles that create undesirable circumstances is preferable to dealing with the (disastrous) consequences after the event.

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author by ecologistpublication date Wed Jan 04, 2006 14:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

which is what you so smugly claim to be doing. Why not just use a hand & soap?
I'm disgusted.

author by hatterpublication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 06:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

How "disgusted" are you with the millions of needless deaths your 'holy' books are directly responsible for. Ask Alice for advice!

author by soapy hand.publication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 13:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

and just like in the song, Hatter you could learn what the Dogon said "feed your head".
Fact is those books are the ABC or literacy and prehistory. don't wipe your arse in any book, rather teach people to read them.

You wouldn't wipe your arse ( I presume) in Homer or Virgil, yet most empires you are opposed to were built through their words.

Nor I presume are you going to try cleaning the periculum with a DVD of Star Wars, but the ethics within will teach yet more generations of illiterates how to be american.

So don't be so intellectually sloppy!

author by bunyippublication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 13:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Very apt name u have chosen for urself "soapy" (hand). Regardless of the specific view u wish to take on civilisation it is a miserable failure. It has culminated in today's world and that nightmare is in your face. Trad societies (without writing) fared much better. In Oz for instance the real locals spent approx 3 hours a day obtaining the necessities for life, the remainder they spent in their dream consciousness and expressions of it in dance and art etc. This is not the 'noble savage ' rave - it is to highlight that ur life as a component of 'civilisation' is a fucking joke (bad dream). U may need some more soap after u read this - cos that's about all u have left.

author by periculempublication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 14:13author address author phone Report this post to the editors

by imperialists or holy book collectors?

You see, it wasn't the books that brought genocide. It was the leaders of those who can turn the disgust at blasphemy (such as yours) into political cause for oppression.

Without such immature Anti-religious sentiment as yours which confuse class politics, there would be no fundamentalist backlash in all world religions against materialism which as of yet the Left has not harnessed as "mass mobilisation".

the majority of humans use a soapy hand by the way. Go out back and ask an aboriginal.

author by bunyippublication date Thu Jan 05, 2006 16:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Choice bunch of learnt words, "imperialists, class politics, mass mobilisation" - however, prior to the reformation the Catholic church ruled with the Jesuits (holy books in hand) as vanguard - the loss of life that resulted from greed under the banner of the cross is history - not fantasy (mass mobilisation indeed).

There is not enough soap to go around at the moment! But enough argument we prob use the same pimple cream - supplied by a modern pharmaceutical company - lol

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