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Cork - Event Notice
Thursday January 01 1970

Vigil At The Selling Of Ireland's Sovereignty, National Monument, Grand Parade, Cork

category cork | rights, freedoms and repression | event notice author Sunday November 21, 2010 23:03author by Paul McAndrew Report this post to the editors

Please invite as many as possible. 6pm Tues 23rd Nov

From Kate Ni Shuilleabhain:

"A vigil at the selling of Ireland's Sovereignty 6pm National Monument
Grand Parade tomorrow. Please invite as many as possible

To show this Government how strongly we as people feel about the treasonest act of this Fianna Fail and Green Party Government has carried out against the Irish people.

Sread the word!!!"

When:Tues 23rd Nov at 6pm.
Where: National Monument, Grande Parade Cork

author by Paul McAndrewpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2010 14:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As an internationalist, I actually disagree with the notion of "sovereignty", but I think we should take this opportunity to demonstrate our opposition to the IMF

author by the big mpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2010 15:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

whats an internationalist? and what in your opinion is "sovereignty"? not trying to rile anyone, but quite interested to know what they are, in your words. I agree with what you say about the imf.

author by Uladh - NONEpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2010 18:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

there is nothing anywhere that states that by being an internationalist that you are inherently opposed to nationalism or sovereignty. i think you need a better word for whatever you think you are because even the IMF are "internationalist" and they don't like sovereignty

author by We the Peoplepublication date Mon Nov 22, 2010 23:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors


Article 7 of the Fianna Fail Constitution clearly states that it is to maintain Ireland as a Sovereign State.

Ask yourself................what went wrong?

Related Link: http://www.fiannafail.ie/content/pages/5097/
author by Burning Down the Housepublication date Mon Nov 22, 2010 23:34author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A vigil .. . . . .To show this Government how strongly we as people feel about the treasonest act of this Fianna Fail and Green Party Government has carried out against the Irish people.


There's only one way to show this Gov't how you feel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and Vigils just ain't gonna cut it I'm sorry to say, sweetie

author by Johnpublication date Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I would interpret sovereignty as applied to nations organisations or individuals as meaning that they are able to act autonomously without being subject to outside interference. As such I have no problem with the term when used to refer to Ireland's current lack of control over it's own affairs.

However I also notice a worrying trend in the media and discussions on the subject to narrow the terms of reference to Ireland alone. This is foolish and dangerous. The IMF are an international phenomenon. We know their form from how they have behaved in other countries. Ireland is only the latest to fall victim to their predatory manipulations. In order to win this one we need to look outside our own borders and notions of nationalism. This is part of a global trend and the solutions while rooted locally have to be applied globally. The stand we take here will have a direct bearing on the struggles of other peoples across the planet. We owe it not only to ourselves but to the rest of humanity also to stand firm.

I consider myself to be sovereign over myself. I want to stand with other sovereign individuals in sovereign groupings that stretch across national boundaries to take down the IMF and their like and create a future and a present that cares for people and the Earth.

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